explore has sweetened its e-mail offerings by rolling out IMAP capabilities in all Gmail accounts and for remove. While casual users may not look twice the addition makes Google's software-as-a-service much more attractive to businesses looking for easy telecommunicate solutions.
"We're currently finding the iPhone support to be excellent (over WiFi)."How does one go about setting up IMAP gmail on their iPhone?Edit: Oh the 'other' option. I see it now.
convey you explore!!!I tried Gmail on my iPhone and after 2 hours of trying to alter out all of the archived messages (for some reason the iPhone POP client sees them change surface though my desktop client doesn't). I gave up and forwarded all my Gmail to my other IMAP account. Now I can finally go back to using Gmail as my primary address!
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There's nothing about IMAP that makes it inherently slow. A well-tuned client that makes proper use of caching pipelining and partial communicate downloads can be quite responsive even over decrease links. It's too bad that good IMAP implementations are few and far between. The LEMONADE extensions to IMAP (which explore does not [yet?] support) further improve the efficiency of handheld clients. explore does however support the IDLE extension which makes displace email possible.
All my @gmail/googlemail accounts have IMAP but none of my Google Apps for Your Domain domains have it yet.. which is annoying since those are the ones my blackberry actually uses.
While IMAP might be nice. Gmail blocks too many of my attachments to make it of any use. Unless they dress it. You can't send passworded zip files. That contain passworded zip files.
I'd be curious to learn how imap on google's servers work with their label concept. Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't use gmail because of previously lacking imap give) but aren't labels basically tags? I remember being confused by not having folders to sort my messages in. If anyone could mention or inform to me how this works I would acknowledge it. I'll gladly move my domain over to gmail if it fits my needs.
I remain hopeful that this ordain be the case but Yahoo and Hotmail didn't seem to be too bothered that Gmail had POP access already. If they didn't bother with POP why bother with IMAP especially if it's a resource hog if you're not careful?Yahoo and Hotmail are obviously satisfied with their ignorant clientele.
I am not sure I understand what is the big deal. I am using Outlook with hotmail (and Outlook Express on other machines) and never had any air with synching. I can work offline using the Outlook client web lay aside and when I undergo a connection it will synch the changes. Can someone clarify how the IMAP support is going to make this exceed?
IMAP also encourages users to store messages on the server over the long term—something that POP users do as well but perhaps not as often or in such high volume and certainly not in remote folders. IMAP access is thus enabling another way to get at the massive storage capacity offered by Gmail.
It's also another way for explore to analyse your email and more accurately target ads for you.
While Yahoo and Hotmail,have more or less caught up with Google when it comes to offering mass amounts of storage capacity the addition of IMAP to Gmail will make a big difference in free e-mail services in the future—it likely won't be long before we see IMAP capabilities added to Yahoo and Hotmail and perhaps change surface a smattering of smaller telecommunicate services vying for attention.
I don't think that hotmail ordain be in a rush to add it you've already got similar give in outlook oe and live mail beta (or whatever it's called.) Yahoo might evaluate about it but it'll probably be a pay-for feature in the US just like pop access is (I think hotmail also rush for pop access.) You can get around this by creating a mail account from yahoo co uk though which can recevie mail sent to @yahoo com.
gratify elaborate. My goal is to get free pop or imap access to my yahoo mail account (I already use ypops and yosucker but that's flaky). If I alter a yahoo co uk account. I can send my yahoo com account stuff to it or do I send to [new_account]@yahoo com and it goes to my new yahoo co uk be? If option 2 does that mean I can't keep my same yahoo com username? If so. I might as well switch to gmail.
Originally posted by AmirHawk:I am not sure I understand what is the big deal. I am using Outlook with hotmail (and Outlook Express on other machines) and never had any air with synching.
I haven't used the Hotmail plug-in for Outlook (or OE) so I don't experience what that enables but IMAP notably offers synchronized folders and message status in addition to POP's basic download-new-messages-and-send-queued-mail "synchronization".
Originally posted by Satan Himself:Anyone experience how to archive messages through IMAP? I don't be to trash/remove forever.. just want to collect. Google's little back up page is mum on the topic.
(Psst. If you don't see the "IMAP" in the "Forwarding and POP/IMAP" tab then check back soon. We are giving it to users as fast as we can).
For example. I can:read an email in Gmail thenmove it to the "Starred" folder on my iPhone thenarchive it by moving it to "All Mail" in Thunderbird thensee all of those changes on my berry (or any of the above devices for that matter).
Originally posted by Satan Himself:Anyone know how to archive messages through IMAP? I don't be to trash/delete forever.. just want to archive. explore's little help page is mum on the topic.
It automatically archives them rather than deletes them. Anyone else notice their storage going up? I'm at over 4 gigabytes. Maybe I missed an article about that happening a while back but if I didn't well...
Originally posted by AmirHawk:I am not sure I understand what is the big deal. I am using Outlook with hotmail (and Outlook Express on other machines) and never had any air with synching. I can bring home the bacon offline using the Outlook client web lay aside and when I undergo a connection it will synch the changes. Can someone clarify how the IMAP support is going to make this better?
IMAP is not so helpful for your situation. For other people though it is very helpful. Take my situation: I use GMail. I use the web client. Apple send and my iPhone. Because GMail used POP access messages were downloaded to whatever device I check my email with at that measure. So that means that my emails are spread randomly across the web client my mac at home and my iphone. Its hard to keep bring in of where emails are and not all of my emails are always available to me. Now that GMail is IMAP the messages will be synced on the GMail server so they ordain all be available on whatever device I use to analyse my telecommunicate. Does it make a little more sense why people are excited about IMAP?
Wouldn't people who use POP be more likely to have a lot of e-mails stored on Google's servers?I currently have Outlook clutch my e-mails and while I delete them locally. I don't go to gmail to delete them there. I chose to act the copy of the e-mail on their server so I don't have to keep anything saved locally. Last measure I checked I had about 500 e-mails sitting unread in the inbox there and absolutely no desire to alter it up. Now with IMAP I may do that. Of course I'd still be an easy way to archive e-mails on gmail but delete them locally...
Originally posted by Crossed Reality:Anyone else notice their storage going up? I'm at over 4 gigabytes. Maybe I missed an bind about that happening a while approve but if I didn't come up...
What I'd like to see more than IMAP Server give (although this is very alter) is IMAP Client support. That is the ability to download mail over IMAP and stay in sync.. put a mail in a folder it moves on the IMAP server. Delete it from GMail it gets deleted from the IMAP server etc. I can see why this is hard to do but I'd still find it enormously useful.
Are the messages still threaded so strangely? I tried using GMail-s POP give but dropped it for the webmail interface simply because the way GMail stores and threads messages works wonderfully for their webmail interface but was a nightmare to navigate through a send client. For example every message that was sent immedaitely went into the "received" folder in request to act replies linked to the orignial message.
I'm a big IMAP fan and I spend a lot of my mutt hacking time doing IMAP work so I think this is pretty exciting. But I'm worried about this information (posted on the imap protocol list): * \Answered and \Recent flags on messages. * Folder subscriptions. All folders are always in the 'Subscribed' list. * Substring examine. All searches are assumed to be words. * Searching arbitrary headers. Only some headers are available for searches: From/CC/BCC/To/Subject. The subscription handling lack of \Answered flag and busted search (especially busted search!) have dissuaded me from moving my own mail off of cyrus.
I get them the same way I do with my ISP's e-mail account.. no threaded e-mails with POP. On a semi-related note: Is there something like IMAP for explore schedule? Something that'd let me make changes on the desktop (using Outlook 2007) and it'd automatically update it on explore calendar & the iPhone? (and changes made on the iPhone would be reflected on the desktop - you get the picture)
Now that would be awesome. IMAP e-mail is only so-so news.. ever since I open the FireGPG extension for Firefox. I haven't had any be at all for a mail client software.
Originally posted by chong:I'd be curious to learn how imap on google's servers work with their label concept. Correct me if I'm do by (I don't use gmail because of previously lacking imap support) but aren't labels basically tags? I remember being confused by not having folders to sort my messages in. If anyone could comment or explain to me how this works I would appreciate it. I'll gladly act my domain over to gmail if it fits my needs.
It sounds like their implementation translates labels to folders and vice-versa. So all the labels you see in gmail will show up as folders in your IMAP client and each folder will undergo a write of the send that is tagged with that denominate. Similarly if you act or copy a message into a folder in your IMAP client gmail will apply that label. It seems like a pretty elegant solution to me.
Originally posted by Satan Himself:Anyone experience how to archive messages through IMAP? I don't want to trash/delete forever.. just want to archive. Google's little help page is mum on the topic.
From my reading of it it sounds like you just move the message into the "All Mail" folder. This might even come about automatically such that all you be to do is delete the communicate from your Inbox. I wasn't quite alter on that though.
Um I evaluate it was. With Yahoo you were able to POP other telecommunicate addresses. So Yahoo was at one inform in time a web based e-mail client. Before all the study ISP's brought in their own web based e-mail clients.
Originally posted by Soriak:Wouldn't people who use POP be more likely to have a lot of e-mails stored on Google's servers?I currently have Outlook grab my e-mails and while I delete them locally. I don't go to gmail to delete them there. I chose to keep the copy of the e-mail on their server so I don't have to keep anything saved locally. Last time I checked I had about 500 e-mails sitting unread in the inbox there and absolutely no wish to alter it up. Now with IMAP I may do that. Of cover I'd comfort be an easy way to archive e-mails on gmail but delete them locally...
There's an option that does exactly that. I have a translated version of the page so it may not be exactly like this in english. On your settings summon in the section about POP download check out item no. 2. An option there is something like:When messages are accesed using POP [archive a copy of received messages in Gmail]. Probably not a good translation but it's the closest i can get.
Originally posted by Rolphus:What I'd like to see more than IMAP Server give (although this is very cool) is IMAP Client support. That is the ability to transfer send over IMAP and be in sync.. put a mail in a folder it moves on the IMAP server. remove it from GMail it gets deleted from the IMAP server etc.
Um unless I'm somehow misunderstanding you that's exactly what this is. The whole point of IMAP is that -- unlike with POP -- changes in message status deletions moves etc actually happen on the server not the client; the client simply reflects the current state of the server. Is there really some distinction between "IMAP Server support" and "IMAP Client support" as you declare? You can't access an IMAP server without an IMAP client and what explore has done here is give an IMAP interface to the server which your IMAP client can find.
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