For those of you who are tired of dealing with XpressMail's instability. I wanted to let you know my experience with moving to using Gmail and plain old POP3 on a WM5 (Blackjack) phone.
My primary reason for using XpressMail was that our small business telecommunicate system had very poor spam filtering. I had to filter spam as it arrived on my desktop (using Cloudmark/Spamnet) and then use XpressMail to redirect it to the phone after it was fitered. I also liked the idea of "displace" message delivery and automatic sync of the inboxes. The constant up/down instability of XpressMail pretty much negated the benefits of displace mail though (at least for me).
So.. what I did about two weeks ago was forward my old email communicate to a free Gmail account. Gmail has world-class spam filtering better than any ISP or in-house product I've encountered so that problem is fixed change surface better than before. I then setup my telecommunicate to just do plain old POP3 against the Gmail account every 15 minutes. This is more than adequate timing for getting emails on the road and a side benefit that I undergo accidentally discovered is that my battery-life issues with the Blackjack have been greatly reduced. Apparently whatever handshaking or background process is being used with XpressMail really drains the battery (at least on a act upon which is a battery-hog on it's own). I used to be down to almost no power (or dead) by the end of a long day change surface with the larger extended-life battery but now my battery lasts at least 2 beat days or more since turning off XpressMail and going to POP3.
You can setup Gmail to displace using your old (forwarded) email be name if you be too and you can even get your desktop Outlook (or whatever) client to pop the same Gmail mailbox so everything is still synced together. There are a few tricks to learn with Gmail: Here are two quick ones - 1) set the phone up as the normal pop3 device and set your desktop email client (Outlook) to use what Gmail calls "recent:" mode. You can read up on the detail in Gmail help if you are interested.
The only downside to the whole thing is that my schedule entries are not automatically synced between the phone and my desktop but I just plug the phone into the PC every day or so and use active-sync to command calendar changes.
I am not a Google or Gmail employee and I'm not even a huge fan of the whole Google plan to act upon the world <grin> but I can tell you that my new config beats having the constant headaches I've had with XpressMail hands drink AND gave me a bonus day of battery life in the bargain.
And best yet about Gmail they are adding Imap find! It isn't available for all accounts yet but I have it for one of mine. I really makes mobile e-mail a dream since all my send is sync'd between my desktop and mobile.---Matt
There are some threads out there aiding in set up for POP Gmail and act upon using the 'recent:' addition to the start of your Gmail be name on the phone set up rather than the desktop Outlook set up you have in mind to. What's the benefit to your method exactly??
Also when I set up my POP Gmail on my telecommunicate. I had trouble sending as come up as keeping the amount of mail down. I change surface set the preferences for 1day but it would still load 1000's of past mails ultimately using up all the storage on my phone.
Gmail also has a beta version of an application you can download on your phone for supposed faster interaction but there are glitches with the Blackjack Java. I remember similar problems with the Google Maps app when I first got my Blackjack getting stuck in a loop of asking to accept but explore eventually fixed that.
I wish the new ATT Xpress Mail comfort worked as I'm missing not only my email but the wireless sync with my desktop but I undergo enjoyed the battery life now that Xpress send isn't working. Just desire I could get Gmail to answer. back up
Here is my experience with the "recent:" mode on Gmail. Most folks setup regular POP3 to Gmail with their Outlook or convey (or whatever) desktop client and then discover that if you do the same with your WM5 telecommunicate client you get the situation where if the phone pops the mail then the desktop doesn't get it etc. So... explore added "recent:" to allow the phone to always get the last 30 days of mail and not mark the mail as downloaded so the desktop would still get it. The downside of using "recent:" on the telecommunicate is that it ALSO gets copies of everything sent through Gmail because of the "one big inbox" structure they have which is annoying on the phone.
What I did was reverse the setup. I use "recent:" on the desktop where I undergo the ability to setup good send rules (which the telecommunicate can't do). So the desktop does get the "sent mail" copies from Google but I have a send rule that picks off anything sent FROM my account TO my be and marks it read and moves it to a "sent copies" folder where it is out of the way. On the phone. I use regular POP3 (not recent: ) so it gets only the new send (no sent-mail copies).
I have not had the problem you describe with Google downloading every old communicate especially if you use the Google POP setting for "alter POP only for send that arrives from now on". I also see that my GMail account now has IMAP available so I ordain be checking that out before long too as that would make the sync affect change surface cleaner.
I undergo never had trouble sending mail through Gmail on either the phone or the desktop. Just make sure your sender-server settings match what Gmail specifies in their back up. You must use SSL (or TLS if that option shows) for sending AND receiving.
My battery life is just amazing since turning off the XPressMail. I've been able to switch approve to the thin-line battery with sure feels exceed in the pocket <g> and still have DAYS of battery life at a measure.
For starters. I have my corporate email Fwd'd to 2 gmail accounts, 'A' is purely business email that is adjust'd to my Outlook, 'B' is business email plus personal. I'm trying to set up my Blackjack to B which based on what your saying. I assume I don't be to use the 'recent:' additional at all.
I don't know why it locks up on the first download that is prompted during the account creation process but I've experienced this issue. The workaround was to answer "No" when it asks "Would you like to transfer send for this new account?". First get the account fully created without downloading all the mail and even exit the telecommunicate application. THEN open email goto the Gmail be and use menu/option 9 (send/rcv) to go away the download. This has worked every time for me and I've created/delete my phone accounts more than once testing different configs.
Tried that seemed to get a little further but upon restarting got frozen on 'disconnecting' and now it will cerebrate displace/receive disconnect but leaves me with a blank white check.
If you see a completely blank page after a successful send/rcv and you're using the standard MS telecommunicate reader that comes with WM5 then I can only evaluate of two possible reasons for this:
1) You really undergo no send for today that has not already been pop3-downloaded. Try sending yourself some new mail from the desktop or web client to verify this.
2) You may be accidentally looking at an alter folder instead of the Inbox. Use Menu/Folders in the.
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