After doing long hours of research I decided to sign up with Hostnine (H9) as they seem to provide reasonable packages (not overselling) for a good price. I hoped to get good support instead. That's for their Basic Shared Hosting Package. Unfortunately this was not the case when I ran into my first problem setting up my add-on domains. The following is the ticket I submitted with them on Oct 1.
I am trying to setup to addon domains to my site which are xyz com and xyz net. I did the first one "xyz com" and created subdomain/ftp username "xyz". Couldn't do the second one then. Deleted the first one and now try to setup "xyz com" with subdomain/ftp username "xyzcom" but I am getting the following error:Error from park wrapper: xyz com is owned by another user. Can you please check why it's telling me that xyz com is owned by other user? I assume the delete did not delete everything in the system. I want the following setup:xyz com xyzcom xyzsite com ~xyz/public_html/xyz comxyz net xyznet xyzsite com ~xyz/public_html/xyz net
I got a reply short after that this needs to be send on to "2 Level Support". After that I didn't hear anything for 24 hours... Then I contacted support live chat to ask for status update. Here is the conversation:
Welcome to HostNine! An online representative will be with you shortly. You are number 1 in the queue. Your wait time will be approximately 0 minute(s) and 18 seconds. You are now chatting with 'H9'H9: Hello! Welcome to HostNine. How may I help you?AS: hi just wanted to check if anything happening on my support request Ticket ID: <ERASED>. It's been over 24 hours with no response... H9: One momentAS: OkayH9: it looks like that domain already has an accountAS: i own this domain as i said i added it but got the subdomain name wrong then deleted and now i can't add it anymore. AS: BTW same thing happen if i just want to park this domain on the account. H9: What is the exact error given?AS: Error from park wrapper: xyz com is owned by another user. H9: it looks like there is already an account for xyz comH9: Do you know what server it might be on?AS: Hang on... AS: The cPanel tells me my server is node12AS: with Shared IP 203.211.140.149AS: Can you see who the other user is it belongs too? My login name is "xyz". H9: try nowAS: you mean adding again?H9: YeahAS: OkayAS: Nope same error again: Error from park wrapper: xyz com is owned by another user. H9: Alright this will be taken care of todayChat session has been terminated by the site operator.
NOTE: I hide the name of the operator with <H9> as I don't want to blame individuals here. I don't think this is the most professional support conversation I ever had. Asking me for details in the ticket and what server I am on doesn't instill confidence in me. Also he wasn't able to resolve it which is fine but he just said this will be taken care of and terminated the conversation! That's not a very customer oriented approach to me. It has been another 24 hours and TODAY has passed and it's stilll not working. As you woud guess there was no email and no update to the ticket!On top of that the other domains (xyz net) email which was working before is now offline and doesn't resolve. I can't delete it and set it up again as I am getting error message in control pannel. Seriously I am not an expert in this but how hard can it be to add some add-on domains to a hosting package or resolve problems if they occur. If you have any experience in webhosting you should be able to solve this in a few minutes... All I can say very disapointed with this company and probably will go somewhere else.....
With the price that they offer and the packages there's no chances of not being "overselling". I'm not saying that they are good or bad since I don't have experience with them.
Usually Live Chat is level 1 support they don't have access to many things. I don't think that's wrong to ask you for the details of your account to know in which server you are. Which I find unprofessional is to close your chat conversation like that though.
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Still find the questions should have been clear from the ticket submitted... My login name as well as site name and email are all captured as part of the ticket. I always referenced the ticket it in any communication. I cannot believe that any tech working in this company is not able to access the ticket system. What's it there for then just to provide a pain for the customer?Also when I signed up it said "24/7 x 365 support" and not 3 days for Level 2 Support to get back to you. I really don't care about the "support levels" they have internally in their company. I want my problems attended and fixed in a reasonable time. Once more please note I have been waiting for 3 days to get something simple like an add-on domain fixed. This is not something out of the ordinary and I didn't blow up when it wasn't done after 1 hour - it's been three days...
my sites now are down with Hostnine for more than an hour and I ma thinking to transfer my sites away from them. I agree their support staff are not friendly at all. Just a message to Hostnine "it costs a fortune to get a customer but costs nothing to be friendly and supportive"
hmm I have been considering hostnine reseller packages but i am seeing more and more negative reviews of hostnine popping up. I check their own forums and I'm seeing a trend of negative reviews as well. Looks like they are definitely having some problems. but it could be just temporary or growing pain problems.
I made the mistake of switching from Hostgator to Hostnine. There were 2 incidents in a month when the promised 24/7 support was out to lunch. Couldn't get anyone on live chat or by telephone. Then there is the black hole called level 2. One or more of Hostnine's Florida servers did not have Fantastico installed. The first time I called support and was told they would send it to level 2. I was assured it would be corrected in a few days. More than a few days passed. I opened another domain on one of the Florida servers and again no Fantastico. This time I sent a support ticket. After a day I was told that this too would go to level 2. I still don't know if they ever fixed the problem. I never received a response from "level 2" telling me the problem had been fixed. Then there was my problem with gettext support. As I understand it gettext support is routinely installed during the php build. It is almost an exception when it is not installed. Without it many applications can only display English. Since my site require translation into multiple languages I needed the gettext support. Over a period of a couple of days I emailed everything I could find on gettext. The last email I received told me they were taking it to the black hole of level 2. I was later told it was my fault for not telling which node I was on. No one at support ever asked me which node. I even posted verbatim the question I was being asked on a Gallery2 forum in hope of find what information they wanted. The person who answered was just as puzzled as I was about what they wanted and answered with information on how to do an install. Then there was the issue of transferring my accounts from Hostgator. When I couldn't log in to the cpanels on my transferred accounts in I phoned support. I was told it was a propagation issue and to wait 24 hours. When it didn't clear up the next day I phoned again. This time someone took the time to look. I seems no one bothered to tell me the name servers for bulk transfered accounts are different. In fact in my control panel when I list accounts they are still shown with the wrong name servers despite the fact I changed them to the correct names servers at Godaddy. Once I was given the correct servers I made the switch and again waited for propagation. This time it worked. If anyone is interested here are some of the exchanges with my annotations.
Reply-to: To: xxxxxxxxNeal R. Yerkes,Your Ticket has been received and a member of our staff will review it and reply accordingly. Listed below are details of this Ticket. Please make sure the Ticket ID remains in the subject at all times. Ticket ID: EFD-482982 Subject: Florida server Department: Support Priority: Medium Status: Open You can check the status of or reply to this Ticket online at: Please do let us know if we can assist you any further. HostNine LLC
Reply-to: To:xxxxxxxHello. HostNIne would like to apologize for the delay in getting to this issue.
Rest assured we are working on these level 2 issues and expect to have a resolution response within 48 hours. Regards,xxxxxxHostNine Technical Support
*********Important Links************Helpdesk: Blog: Forums: ********************************** Ticket Details===================Ticket ID: EFD-482982Department: Level 2 SupportPriority: MediumStatus: Open
Never heard anything more after that. I had previously called via telephone about this
Please do let us know if we can assist you any further. HostNine LLCts is using it via an image? Or just html? Regards,xxxxxSupport Manager *********Important Links************Helpdesk:
********************************** Ticket Details===================Ticket ID: RHI-617712Department: SupportPriority: UrgentStatus: On HoldAre you using php4 or 5 so i know where to do it? Regards,xxxxxxSupport Manager *********Important Links************Helpdesk:
Ticket Details===================Ticket ID: RHI-617712Department: SupportPriority: UrgentStatus: On HoldHi. Where do you need this installed though. Regards,xxxxHostNine Technical Support *********Important Links************Helpdesk:
I sent links to the Gettext manual thinking that would answer the question
Ticket Details===================Ticket ID: RHI-617712Department: SupportPriority: UrgentStatus: On HoldHello. We know how to install it the problem is we need to know *where* to install it Regards,xxxHostNine Support *********Important Links************Helpdesk:
After my last email to them providing what I thought was more specific information came.
Ticket Details===================Ticket ID: RHI-617712Department: SupportPriority: UrgentStatus: On Hold
Please note that level 2 issues can take a bit longer to resolve as they require more attention and investigation but we will have this resolved as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter. Regards,xxxxHostNine Technical Support *********Important Links************Helpdesk:
After receiving the last email I attempted to login in to live person on Saturday Night. No one was home. The screen asked me to leave a message which I did. Below is the acknowledgement they received that message. "Live Person" message. I never received a response to this one either.
From: HostNine Support (support@hostnine com) Sent: Sat 9/29/07 10:56 PM Reply-to: To: xxxxxxx,Your Ticket has been received and a member of our staff will review it and reply accordingly. Listed below are details of this Ticket. Please make sure the Ticket ID remains in the subject at all times. Ticket ID: ANB-790466 Subject: LivePerson Message Department: Support Priority: Low Status: Open
Well given an account name or billing ID of sorts the host should be able to see what server the customer is on. Asking for details that are at their fingertips can be annoying. Never-the-less he still asked when he didn't know which is a good thing. Maybe he was new? Ending the conversation like that though that's a turn off. He simply could have asked if there was anything else he could do.
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The case of DomainInvestor is very similar to mine with level 2 support being a black hole and their technical staff requesting information they should actually know better than I. Today I finally got an reply from the "Support Manager". This was't much of a highlight as well:
Now this is just ridiculous xyz com is the side I am hosting with them the only one. On top of that I clearly told them in my ticket that this is what I want to do:
xyz com xyz xyzsite com ~xyz/public_html/xyz comxyz net xyz xyzsite com ~xyz/public_html/xyz net
Sorry to hear about the bad events. I was wondering what happened with them. I had seen good reviews about them earlier. If things are going like that think about running away from them.
Hostnine used to be a good company. I switched my domains from Anhosting to Hostnine and all are working fine. Until recently. I been having a lot of downtime for all my domains and that have been very frustrating. I must admit that their services have indeed dropped. Going to switch out of H9 this week.
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