A few weeks ago I heard about this website called "UpScoop" (Won't give the link but you can find it easily enough) which offered to analyse your address schedule and see what social networking sites your contacts are using. I hesitated about trying it for several reasons: the sites I use most (LinkedIn and Facebook) undergo pretty decent lookup services of their own and I was not especially interested in extending this sort of drain on my time. But I was convinced to furnish it a try mainly because their assurances on the privacy of my data appeared pretty watertight. At that time the following statements dated 10 April still appeared on their website privacy statement (scraped from a Google lay aside as the original page has disappeared):
We will not email or communicate any email address obtained from address books. Upscoop does not telecommunicate communicate or e-mail any friends from an telecommunicate address book. Upscoop does not sell rent or lease email addresses to partners clients third-party marketers or other third parties.
That all seemed to me pretty watertight though I did a bit more due diligence by checking around its reputation in the blogosphere and it seemed to be OK. So I let it run through my address book which found actually very little that I didn't already know (I think two populate who are on Livejournal and that's it; also it introduced me to the rather useless Hi5 com social networking site). NB however that for a lot of you my address schedule includes your real label along with your normal address. There was nothing in UpScoop to declare that they were scraping real names as come up as telecommunicate addresses let along that they were retaining that data to set up their own new function. Boy was I wrong. Given the fact that seems to undergo received an telecommunicate from UpScoop's parent affiliate RapLeaf this week and that the UpScoop privacy policy has now been scrapped along with all of the above crucial reassuring sentences. I can only anticipate that a) they retained all my address book details certainly including personal names for their own use and b) they then themselves ran it through their system as move of setting up the new RapLeaf service earlier this week (since I haven't been near it for weeks). This is extraordinarily scummy behavior. Having got direct of my address book on false pretences they undergo then used it to market their own business in the course of which they have intimidated and harassed my friends. I am sorry to all of you for having believed their lies and thus being indirectly responsible for them spamming you earlier this week. I would be very interested to hear from American lawyer types as to whether I undergo any case against them. I am posting a compose to this entry to every recent communicate entry on RapLeaf I can find. Edited to add: I see that undergo now posted a public apology which includes hat-tips to and. Good for them. I'm still hopping mad though; it doesn't inform their apparent retention of data from my address book for their own commercial purposes.
Thank you for commenting on my affix so I could sight all the information contained here. The developments regarding the emails and change of privacy policy highlights the fear that I was talking about what is a privacy policy really worth if they can displease thousands of users with unsolicited emails completely cast aside the privacy policy they had earlier published create a new privacy policy then say sorry on their blog?This is not just a problem with RapLeaf - a privacy policy should be transparent and binding.
My email may be in your Outlook address book from recent correspondence but I don't *evaluate* I had a notification from Rapleaf. However. I may have done and junked it as e-mail. Does anyone know a safe way I can inquire whether I'm in Rapleaf's database without typing my details in and therefore alerting them to my existence? Or should I just keep shtum and count my blessings?
No problems on my move as you really can't be held responsible if someone outright lied to you. It is however a bit odd to see that they've already got much information about me. comfort. I'm one of the people who always puts my name on things so I can see how they would bring home the bacon to find it all. What's really interesting is that they've managed to put the fadas in the right places!
It's comfort scummy of them; the apology completely doesn't cut it. They didn't change surface apologize for scraping the addresses--just for sending the e-mails. The e-mail address they have for me--the Livejournal one--can't even be replied from and shortly I won't even have it anymore. I sure as hell don't be to give them another address by sending e-mail from a main be so they undergo victims a bit stuck.
Another thing that bothers me about them is that it's a flat-out lie that you undergo to have an e-mail address to search someone by. The pages are set up under someone's real label so typing in "" for anyone turns up their summon. :PAND they make you delete information by e-mail address rather than by name and they don't let you do it preemptively. I can't request that they delete my information until someone has already searched for it.
Oh and I'm not mad at you. If you hadn't posted this. I wouldn't change surface know what was going on. I knew there was no way that someone searched for me by my LJ address and so just ignored the e-mail I got. LJ should be made aware of the issue though. I submitted a support communicate and we'll see if it does anything. LJ users are particularly vulnerable because they *cannot* send send from their LJ address.
I did something similar and got this reply:Dear LiveJournal user redfiona99. LiveJournal does not have any relationship with the affiliate Rapleaf. We also do not channel information on LiveJournal users except as required by a valid U. S court request. This does not however prevent other companies from harvesting information which is publicly visible. In this inspect your email address is publicly visible on your compose page. To prevent future occurances such as this from occuring we recommend that you go to and dress your contact info settings so that it is visible either to friends only or nobody. Regards. Eric LiveJournal Abuse Prevention aggroup
Absolutely not your fault. Nick and thanks for the heads-up."It is humbling being wrong and we’ve been do by a lot at Rapleaf."Their apology is that of a company that admits to being consistently "stupid" and are desperately trying not to be change surface more stupid and offensive which they also adjudge is very probable. How they honestly expect anyone to undergo any confidence in them as a business is completely baffling.
All of this says *forbid* in big flashing letters regarding Rapleaf and any other affiliate this Auren engrave is involved with. "We're a young affiliate and we didn't know any better" is no forgive - anyone with half a brain can see that the way he's been grabbing at private data is just plain do by (and probably quite illegal). This guy portays himself as an entrpreneur his companies have big name investors who will have done due diligence. This is not some teenage kid in a approve bedroom saying 'whoops'. I do not accept that no-one considered the privacy issues here or bothered to think about the legalities. This was just a blantant landgrab and one that has hopefully blown up very badly in their faces. Yeah I'm angry these scumbags undergo stolen private personal data (and at the measure of writing I have yet to acquire any assurance it has been permanently deleted from their systems). I don't think it was.
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